. >> reporter: pennsylvania is supposed to be a lock for president obama. the last time a republican won was 1988. but they elected pat toomey to the senate in 2010, elected a republican governor, 12 of the last 20 seats in the house are republican and they feel they have a shot and want to expand the electoral map with 20 electoral votes. they think they can do well in affluent suburban, philadelphia and even take a shot in allegheny county which has not gone republican since 1972 >> can't be good news for the obama campaign? >> no, it is not good news for the obama campaign. they are defending seats. all these battleground states that we are talking about, you know, he won pennsylvania by 681,000 votes, 10% points. he should be trying, the president, expanding rather than defending but all they care about is winning at least by one vote to get all the electoral votes in that state. >> in 2000, i was in florida in west palm beach watching as they counted hanging chads. won't be quite as bad this time in ohio but ohio is a mess. >> ohio, i just don't see ho